LiveTV on iPhone, iPad and iPod Touch

  • Hi, now is working, with the server 2.2.5-beta2 and restarting the dream (I don´t know why but the channels didn´t change it).



    thanks for the application!! works fine!!!

  • Hallo,


    die LiveTV Videos laufen nur ca. 3 Sekunden.
    Videodateien von einem anderen Laufwerk laufen gut.


    Woran könnte das liegen, dass der LiveTV Stream immer abbricht?
    Habe es in der channel.ini mit und ohne root:pass@ probiert.


    Schönes WE

  • Klappt eigentlich super ( auch 3G). Habe das 3 Sekunden Problem manchmal auf ARD und ZDF. Hängt bei mir offensichtlich von der Qualität der Filme ab. Habe zusätzlich festgestellt, dass es mit der DM-8000 besser klappt als mit der DM_800. Besteht die Hoffnung, dass es mit einem Linux-server noch besser funktioniert. VLC brachte keine Verbesserung.
    Danke für das tolle Programm.

  • yogi2000: if you make sure your receiver does not by default select the dolby digital ac3 audio stream of a channel, then streaming will work fine for ard and zdf as well :)

    Kathrein UFS910 (AAF E2)
    Dbox2 (latest Petze)


  • Kann mir einer bitte mal helfen bekomme einfach kein Bild auf mein Iphone .... manchmal klappt es nur bei ARD oder ZDF aber wenn ich auf dem Iphone z.B RTL oder SAT 1 auswähle funktioniert es nicht,habe Windows 7 32 bit und die Dreambox 600 :-(

  • hallo,


    habe folgendes problem:
    wenn ich das orig. tvout-kabel benutze kann ich nur ard sehen.
    ohne kabel gehen aber alle sender. (auch länger als 3 sek.)


    ich kann "Play with Live Conversation" anwählen, dann kommt "Preparing Video" und dann bricht der vorgang ab und ich könnte wieder "Play with Live Conversation" auswählen.
    wie gesagt ohne kabel kann ich alles ohne Probleme sehen.


    hab ein 3GS mit 3.1.3, eine DM8000 mit newnigma2 3.0.1 mit 2xDVB-C, AirVideo Server 2.2.7 unter W7 Ultimate 64 und AirVideo Client 2.2.4.


    danke für eure hilfe!!


    hier mein server log:


    2010-08-08 23:15:17 LiveConversion: Begin Live Video Conversion
    2010-08-08 23:15:17 LiveConversion: >>
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    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: channel_count = 175
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: Local time and date: Sun Aug 08 23:15:17 2010
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion:
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 0 C:\Program Files (x86)\AirVideoServer\ffmpeg.exe
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 1 --conversion-id
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 2 80e3ad42-7c90-4bab-9c4f-cccd76194fcf
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 3 --port-number
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 4 46631
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 5 -threads
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 6 4
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 7 -flags2
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 8 +fast
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 9 -flags
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 10 +loop
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 11 -g
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 12 30
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 13 -keyint_min
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 14 1
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 15 -bf
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 16 0
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 17 -b_strategy
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 18 0
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    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 20 -wpred-dct8x8
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 21 -cmp
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 22 +chroma
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 23 -deblockalpha
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 24 0
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 25 -deblockbeta
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 26 0
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 27 -refs
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 28 1
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 29 -coder
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 30 0
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    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 32 16
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 33 -subq
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 34 5
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 35 -partitions
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 36 +parti4x4+parti8x8+partp8x8
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 37 -trellis
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 38 0
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 39 -sc_threshold
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 40 40
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 41 -i_qfactor
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 42 0.71
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 43 -qcomp
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 44 0.6
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 45 -map
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 46 0.0:0.0
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 47 -an
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 48 -ss
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 49 0.0
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 50 -i
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 51 D:\\AirVideoServer\\LiveTV\\Filme\\0068-Sky-Cinema.mp4
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 52 -padleft
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 53 4
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 54 -padright
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 55 4
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 56 -padtop
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 57 0
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 58 -padbottom
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 59 0
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 60 -cropleft
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 61 0
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 62 -cropright
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 63 0
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 64 -croptop
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 65 0
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 66 -cropbottom
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 67 0
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 68 -s
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 69 568x320
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 70 -aspect
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 71 1.775
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 72 -y
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 73 -f
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 74 mpegts
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 75 -vcodec
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 76 libx264
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 77 -crf
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 78 32
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 79 -qmax
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 80 32
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 81 -r
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 82 25.0
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 83 -acodec
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 84 libmp3lame
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 85 -ab
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 86 96k
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 87 -ar
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 88 44100
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 89 -ac
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 90 2
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: 91 -
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: FFmpeg version UNKNOWN, Copyright (c) 2000-2009 Fabrice Bellard, et al.
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: built on Dec 31 2009 15:02:55 with gcc 4.4.1
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: configuration: --enable-memalign-hack --prefix=/mingw --target-os=mingw32 --arch=i686 --cpu=i686 --enable-gpl --enable-libx264 --enable-static --disable-shared --enable-pthreads --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libfaad --disable-decoder=aac
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: libavutil 50. 7. 0 / 50. 7. 0
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: libavcodec 52.43. 0 / 52.43. 0
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: libavformat 52.43. 0 / 52.43. 0
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: libavdevice 52. 2. 0 / 52. 2. 0
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: libswscale 0. 7. 2 / 0. 7. 2
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: [mpegts @ 0x2ffaca0]max_analyze_duration reached
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: [mpegts @ 0x2ffaca0]Estimating duration from bitrate, this may be inaccurate
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion:
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: Seems stream 1 codec frame rate differs from container frame rate: 50.00 (50/1) -> 25.00 (25/1)
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: Input #0, mpegts, from 'http://192.168.1.100:8001/1:0:1:A:2:85:FFFF0000:0:0:0':
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: Duration: N/A, start: 43634.833400, bitrate: 15768 kb/s
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: Program 8
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: Program 9
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: Program 10
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: Stream #0.0[0x20](deu): Subtitle: 0x0006
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: Stream #0.1[0x1ff]: Video: mpeg2video, yuv420p, 720x576 [PAR 64:45 DAR 16:9], 15000 kb/s, 25 fps, 25 tbr, 90k tbn, 50 tbc
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: Stream #0.2[0x200](deu): Audio: mp2, 48000 Hz, 2 channels, s16, 192 kb/s
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: Stream #0.3[0x201](eng): Audio: mp2, 48000 Hz, 2 channels, s16, 192 kb/s
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: Stream #0.4[0x203](deu): Audio: ac3, 48000 Hz, stereo, s16, 384 kb/s
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: Program 11
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: Program 20
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: Program 43
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: Program 251
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: Program 261
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: Program 3499
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: Program 3500
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: Program 4021
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: [libx264 @ 0x3049000]using SAR=71/72
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: [libx264 @ 0x3049000]using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 FastShuffle SSE4.2
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: [libx264 @ 0x3049000]profile Baseline, level 2.1
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: Output #0, mpegts, to 'pipe:':
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: Stream #0.0: Video: libx264, yuv420p, 576x320 [PAR 71:72 DAR 71:40], q=2-32, 200 kb/s, 90k tbn, 25 tbc
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: Stream #0.1(deu): Audio: libmp3lame, 48000 Hz, stereo, s16, 64 kb/s
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: Stream mapping:
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: Stream #0.1 -> #0.0
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: Stream #0.2 -> #0.1
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: Press [q] to stop encoding
    2010-08-08 23:15:25 LiveConversion: frame= 108 fps= 0 q=32.0 size= 211kB time=4.04 bitrate= 427.7kbits/s dup=11 drop=0

  • Dear Jockey,


    I have successfully used the mod for some time now. I have been testing it alot with three xp machines on different location. On all machines it after some time not working anymore. I found out that exit airvideo and restart air video fixes the problem.
    Have you got this problems to or is it just me?


    Maybe has to do with modified FFMPEG?
    I wish to help to get this problem fixed please let me know if you need more information


    My machines are all running XP home SP3. Latest Airvideo installed.


    Greetings Danny

  • Irresisti: definitely not because of the patched ffmpeg. Maybe the java based air video server hangs after a while. I'm using air video mainly under mac osx and it is running w/o interrupts in the past months.

    Kathrein UFS910 (AAF E2)
    Dbox2 (latest Petze)

  • Alright. Will test some. to see if the whole air video hangs or only the live tv part.
    Also my experience is with my DM500 i was unable to get lipsync coreect. The audio and video never seemed to sync.. But on both my 7020 and 7025 its wprking flawlessly...


    Greetings

  • After some testing:


    I can connect to my air video server and see the channel list but when i start to play a channel the dreambox does not do the channel zap.


    Now I wanted to capture some packets to see what is going on..
    I did not see a packet go to the dreambox for the channel zap the only url that i managed to capture was the following


    http://192.168.2.135:45631/liv…f9-bad1-9c9d17a69244.m3u8


    This must be the url to start the stream to the ipad. But I think it could not play because the zap never happend and the stream from the dreambox never started. The only fix is to restart the airvideo server
    Also normal video dont work only after restart


    Now the log of airvideo shows this..


    2010-08-09 23:00:22 Thumbnail: Cannot open file channels.ini
    2010-08-09 23:00:23 Thumbnail: >>


    And I found more with the same problem
    http://www.inmethod.com/forum/posts/list/767.page

  • I have followed your guide at every step, but still I have not managed the streams to work properly. When i for example fire up the AirVideo app on the iPhone and open the LiveTV folder and then the German TV folder i get invalid written in red writing on the right side of every stream and when i click on one channel it does not give me the option to play with conversion, the only option i do get is Play and then i only get the 1-second image of the channel logo. I t also says No video stream found in file. Can you please help me and tell what i did wrong?


    My router is in UPNP mode and i can stream movies on my computer (both over wi-Fi and 3G) flawlessly.


    If it helps you i am using DM800HD, and iPhone 4 running iOS 4.0.1, and the AirVideo software on my computer is version 2.2.7.


    Thanks in advance :)

  • I have followed every step of your guide, but when i open the AirVideo app on my iPhone and fire up the LiveTV folder and German TV and then press the channel thumbnail i only get one option which says play, and not play with live conversion as I am supposed to get according to your guide. It also says: ''No video stream found in file.'' and if i press play it shows a one second image of the channel logo. And yes, i have changed the IP-address in the channels.ini file correctly.


    I have set up my router properly and it is in upnp mode, as i am able to stream my movies on my computer flawlessly both over wi-fi and 3G.


    If it is to any help i am using DM800HD, iOS 4.0.1 and AirVideo server version 2.2.7.


    Thanks in advance :)

  • I have followed every step of your guide, but when i open the AirVideo app on my iPhone and fire up the LiveTV folder and German TV and then press the channel thumbnail i only get one option which says play, and not play with live conversion as I am supposed to get according to your guide. It also says: ''No video stream found in file.'' and if i press play it shows a one second image of the channel logo. And yes, i have changed the IP-address in the channels.ini file correctly.


    I have set up my router properly and it is in upnp mode, as i am able to stream my movies on my computer flawlessly both over wi-fi and 3G.


    If it is to any help i am using DM800HD, iOS 4.0.1 and AirVideo server version 2.2.7.


    Thanks in advance :)

  • Hi guys, can you please help me out.
    When i try to stream from my box to iPhone I only get this:



    And on iPhone I only get Loading Movie...
    and nothing happends.


    Any ideas?



    And I also get invalid thumbnails on iPhone.
    This is the error on airvideo server:


    Thanks in advance

  • I can see many others are experiencing the problem that the dreambox does not start streaming and the error in the log says: ''Cannot open channels.ini.'' Has anybody worked out a fix for that yet?


    Any help would be hugely appreciated.

  • Works to perfection thanks.
    Have apple mac mini server, imac, pc with win7 and HP notebook. On all devices positiv result.
    :hurra:
    Make sure: In mac channels ini in root directory. No other files but airvideo programm in separate map. LiveTV in another separate map. On dreambox switch off autification mathers on streaming and http settings. No access codes nor passwords in web interface!
    On win7 pc Program files in programm files\airvideo as discussed and so on, but dont use windows password. And take good care with the share mathers.
    Good luck :kaffee:

  • Many thanks :)
    Works good...
    (Auch das wechseln der Kanäle funktioniert wunderbar)


    - iPhone 4
    - Dreambox 800
    - Vista 64bit
    - Server 2.2.7


    Einziges Problem ist, dass in der Free Version von Air Video nur 3-4 Kanäle angezeigt werden.
    Wer gerne Roulette spielt kann es gerne nutzen ^^
    Man brauch Glück damit man den richtigen Kanal angezeigt bekommt.
    Vorteile bringts wenn man nicht gebrauchte Kanäle vom Air Video Server löscht :)


    Vlt. leg ich mir in Zukunft die Vollversion zu, oder gibts da andere Wege?
    Ohne Jailbreak!!


    Vielen Dank :)

    Edited once, last by P3r0 ().

  • hallo an alle,
    probiere hier schon ne woche rum und bekomms nicht hin.
    ohne vlc 3 sec. problem mit vlc bekomm ich es garnicht hin, nur schwarzer bildschirm und sender wird garnicht umgeschaltet.
    bin schon der meinnung das ich langsam zu blöd bin.


    hier mal paar angaben, wenn mir einer helfen könnte würde ich mich sehr freuen.
    iphone 3gs ist AirVideo 2.2.4 drauf
    laptop ist vlc 1.0.5 drauf


    playlist.m3u muß es doch so aussehen


    h**p://127.0.0.1:8001/1:0:1:385:2134:13E:820000:0:0:0


    und in der channels.ini so


    http://root:hier passwort@IP Box:8080/requests/status.xml?command=pl_play&id=9
    http://root:hier passwort@IP Box:1234


    oder irre ich mich.
    wähle ich ein sender und geh auf Play with Live Conversion kommt nur schwarzer bildschirm, sender wird nicht umgeschaltet.
    ausgabe Air Video Server 2.2.7


    2010-08-13 23:00:40 LiveConversion: Begin Live Video Conversion
    2010-08-13 23:00:40 LiveConversion: >>
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    367A693B2F2F2A2B2B3B367A783B293B36
    <<

    *-T90---13°-19,2°-23,5°-42°-*
    *-DM800 Samsung LE40B650-*
    *-Gemini 5*

    Edited once, last by deniz-1 ().

  • wo kommt jetzt der :385: her?
    da gehört : 385 : hin

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